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Title: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: stryder2000 on November 08, 2006, 05:43:20 PM Hey folks!
I have been trying to find out about the Wii's graphics capabilities as compared to what the PS2 has. I haven't found anywhere that has the specifications for the Wii. I have heard all the talk about the Wii being so graphically inferior to the 360 and PS3. But since I have no wish to spend the $$ on those other consoles, plus I think Nintendo hit the mark this time, I just want to know what improvements I will be able to see compared to my current console. Thanks, rob Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: Puff Daddy on November 08, 2006, 05:57:24 PM Nintendo stated that graphically, the current generation meaning Gamecube/PS2/Xbox, are at a great level and there isn't much more we push for until technology becomes more available and cheaper. So they wanted to take gaming in a different direction and try to appeal to a broader market at the same point.
I don't have PS2 vs Wii comparison, but I do have Wii vs Gamecube which should be close enough. Here's a post: http://www.ngcfrance.com/news.php?operande=0&idx=6119&r=1 Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: Nonya on November 08, 2006, 06:25:07 PM Well, the graphics on the Wii is better than the Xbox 1 for sure. Here's comparison of Wii vs. PS2
CPU: PS2: 128-bit "Emotion Engine" (300MHz) with multiple co-processors Wii: 729 MHz IBM PowerPC "Broadway" CPU GPU: PS2: N\A Wii: 243 MHz ATI "Hollywood" GPU RAM: PS2: 32mb RAMBUS DRAM, 4mb Video RAM Wii: 24MB "main" 1T-SRAM 64MB other 1T-SRAM Polygon max: PS2: 66 million per second Wii: 500 Million per second So as you can tell the Wii's graphics are no joke, but it's weak compared to the XBOX360 and PS3. Hope this helps. :mrgreen: Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: NobodyexpectsJINJO on November 08, 2006, 06:32:49 PM well id say theyd be about -0.5% to 15% better than the ps2
we'll see on the 19th then! Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: MysticGohan on November 08, 2006, 07:16:23 PM Well you see this is very simple to answer. how much stronger is ps2 compared to Gamecube. Nintendo Said that the wii will be 2 time stronger then Gamecube
Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: Trevelyan on November 08, 2006, 07:37:22 PM Simple timeline: (Least powerful first - though a certain system may be better in certain area's, but this is in terms of power)
PS2 > Gamecube > Xbox > Wii > Xbox 360 > PS3. Wii is about the power of two Gamecubes, but when you see the awesome graphics of games like Resident Evil 4 and Twilight Princess GC (Twilight Princess for Wii and GC are the same) you realise that graphics even with the GC are still great). Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: bassisnotafish on November 08, 2006, 09:40:11 PM everything looks a bit smoother, i like it
Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: Puff Daddy on November 09, 2006, 12:03:49 AM Simple timeline: (Least powerful first - though a certain system may be better in certain area's, but this is in terms of power) PS2 > Gamecube > Xbox > Wii > Xbox 360 > PS3. Wii is about the power of two Gamecubes, but when you see the awesome graphics of games like Resident Evil 4 and Twilight Princess GC (Twilight Princess for Wii and GC are the same) you realise that graphics even with the GC are still great). Did you fail math? PS2 < Gamecube < Xbox < Wii < Xbox 360 < PS3 You're equation signs are all wrong. You're way stated that the PS2 was the graphic powerhouse. Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: Trevelyan on November 09, 2006, 07:53:27 AM Simple timeline: (Least powerful first - though a certain system may be better in certain area's, but this is in terms of power) PS2 > Gamecube > Xbox > Wii > Xbox 360 > PS3. Wii is about the power of two Gamecubes, but when you see the awesome graphics of games like Resident Evil 4 and Twilight Princess GC (Twilight Princess for Wii and GC are the same) you realise that graphics even with the GC are still great). Did you fail math? PS2 < Gamecube < Xbox < Wii < Xbox 360 < PS3 You're equation signs are all wrong. You're way stated that the PS2 was the graphic powerhouse. I am fully aware that > is greater than and < is less than, as well as meaning other things. I also stated at the top of post (Did you fail English?), which I have made bold and bigger so that you read/see it this time. The use of > was to signify the progression in a line. Also, I did not fail math, 2 + 2 = 5 right? :roll: Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: Rob2112 on November 09, 2006, 09:47:17 AM well id say theyd be about -0.5% to 15% better than the ps2 we'll see on the 19th then! Hooray a numbers magician! Make some more appear out of nowhere please! Anyways... Worth noting is that the Gamecube and Wii use 1T-SRAM, similar to the 360's 10MB video eDRAM. 1T-SRAM has embedded ECC -> reliable, draws less juice than conventional system memory -> WiiConnect24, and since it's got a wiiiide bus; the bandwidth here can be incredible. The 360 has about 22GB/s to the main memory, but 256GB/s to the eDRAM. Architechture counts! The 360 uses 512MB of shared memory + 10MB eDRAM. The PS3 technically has 512MB of memory, but 256 of that is dedicated XDR (RAMBUS) to the system, and 256MB GDDR3 to the GPU. A lot of people seem to continually discount the Wii's capabilities as "last-gen," since the pure numbers are misleading. Don't be fooled, the Wii packs a good punch. Does it rival the PS3 and 360 in pure horsepower? No, of course not; but I wouldn't be surprised to see titles down the road for Wii that look as good or better than some first gen 360/PS3 titles. (Even if they are only in 480p :P) And since it's the same architechture as the Gamecube, developers already have tricks up their sleeves and know well how to develop for it. The Wii will definitely be getting the most out of its hardware LONG before the PS3 and almost surely before the 360. Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: themini on November 09, 2006, 11:07:27 AM hey people
well currently gamecube graphics are with comparison to the XBOX, the ps2's graphics are inferior to gamecube, many specifications indicating this. so, if the wii is supposedly twice the graphical power of the gamecube then that should give you an indication of the wii vs ps2, id say 2 1/2 times better than the ps2 in terms of graphical perspective. hope this helps ;) Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: meridianblade on November 09, 2006, 12:04:28 PM I also agree that GC graphics beat PS2's hands down. Many people don't see this because of the popularity difference between the two consoles. The PS2 has some amazing games, but it's jaggy central.
Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: SuperTongue on November 09, 2006, 04:02:14 PM Meh, I don't see how you can compare a next gen system to a last gen system. It just makes no sense, except for when you are comparing it to its older brother (ie Game Cube to Wii).
Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: Mrfudge on November 09, 2006, 04:41:58 PM I read somewhere that the Gamecube was similar to the Dreamcast in that it had superior textures...stuff, but I never really noticed because all I really used my Ps2 for was Rpg's and Fps's which never really had the most astounding graphics.
Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: Trevelyan on November 09, 2006, 06:02:36 PM Nobody really noticed that the Gamecubes graphics were better than the PS2's because Sony always use cut scenes to showcase there games, which REALLY fucks me off, people would see the adverts for a PS2 game and been like WOW, THAT IZ DA SHEET!1!!¬ then seen an advert for say Metroid Prime and been like, looks alright but not as good as that.
Resident Evil 4 is a prime example, the graphical differences between the GC version and the PS2 version, although not very different, are noticable to those who have played the GC version then the PS2 version. The main difference is that when you go to a cut scene in the GC version and then get back into the game, the graphics are the same, very smooth and some of the best visuals on the GC, on the PS2 version the difference is noticed when coming back from a cut scene to playing the game. Title: Re: Wii vs. PS2 graphics Post by: NobodyexpectsJINJO on November 09, 2006, 06:09:40 PM Nobody really noticed that the Gamecubes graphics were better than the PS2's because Sony always use cut scenes to showcase there games, which REALLY fucks me off, people would see the adverts for a PS2 game and been like WOW, THAT IZ DA SHEET!1!!¬ then seen an advert for say Metroid Prime and been like, looks alright but not as good as that. very true, very true...Resident Evil 4 is a prime example, the graphical differences between the GC version and the PS2 version, although not very different, are noticable to those who have played the GC version then the PS2 version. The main difference is that when you go to a cut scene in the GC version and then get back into the game, the graphics are the same, very smooth and some of the best visuals on the GC, on the PS2 version the difference is noticed when coming back from a cut scene to playing the game. |